I am a journalist, author and interviewer, likened to "a therapist at happy hour" by The New York Times.

I host Death, Sex & Money, the award-winning interview podcast from WNYC Studios, and my book, Let's Talk About Hard Things, is available now

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“For the past seven years on Death, Sex & Money, Sale has talked about those vital and complex subjects with curiosity, boldness, and sensitivity, with a variety of guests; her book, a reported memoir, conveys how we might have such conversations ourselves. It’s not a how-to, but it’s instructive—and timely…many of us are realizing that we’ve forgotten how to talk about the easy things, let alone the hard ones…As Sale shows us how supportive listening happens, and doesn’t scold anyone for not doing it better, we deepen our trust for her as a narrator: she’s dispensing not 'tough love' to the reader but empathy. By the end, we feel clearer, more known, and ready to proceed. In that way, her book is not unlike a good conversation with a friend.”

The New Yorker

Read an adapted essay in The New York Times Sunday Review.

Other Book Interviews and Reviews

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Death, Sex & Money is the award-winning podcast from WNYC Studios about “the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.” After debuting at the top of the Apple Podcasts chart in 2014, Death, Sex & Money was named the #1 podcast of the year by New York Magazine in 2015. I won a Gracie for best podcast host in 2016 and the show won a 2018 Webby and 2020 Ambi for best interview show. My guests have included Jane Fonda, Bill Withers, Madeleine Albright, Mahershala Ali, Kevin Bacon, John Prine, Raphael Saadiq, Jason Isbell, Ellen Burstyn, and former Senator Alan Simpson. Some of my favorite episodes are here.

I love to hear from listeners and readers. Please be in touch.

I give occasional speeches to schools, universities, corporations, and professional and service organizations. Please send speaking requests here.

If you are starting out in journalism or podcasting and looking for advice, here are two talks where I describe my start in journalism and launching Death, Sex & Money with my WNYC colleagues.

I grew up in West Virginia and live in Berkeley, California. I also spend significant time around Cody, Wyoming, with my husband Arthur and two daughters.